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Whiplashr · Jan 04, 2007, 07:18 AM // 07:18

People always rush out the old mantra of "if Anet hasn't said it, it's not true". Reminds me of several years on the battle.net forums.. rumors about the Diablo II expansion. The mantra of "If Blizzard didn't say it, it isn't true." But the rumors being posted WERE true, about what was in the game, and when it was released.

Then rumors that the Warcraft III expansion would be called "The Frozen Throne" and released at some point that summer or whatever. Once again, "If Blizzard didn't say it, it's not true". People ridiculing the name ("Blizzard would never use a stupid name like that!"). And so on, and so on.

And yet, that's exactly what it was called. And it came out right when the rumors said it would.

I'm not saying rumors are ALWAYS true. Not even close. But I can't count the number of times I have had to watch people chanting "If XXX didn't say it's not true!" only to have it turn out to be true.

Try not to be so cynical all the time people. Sometimes this info and leaks are in fact very true.

holy matremonie · Jan 04, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

we have a TV show in Belgium that covers everthing from the latest games to retro. 1.5 months ago they had an interview with the NCsoft representative for the Benelux about the NF part of GW. When they asked him about a possible part 4, he clearly stated that the new part wouldnt be available before AUGUST 2007, but they would be adding new content for the earlier parts of the game.

Clord · Jan 04, 2007, 11:39 AM // 11:39

Gwen might as well serve to be eg 10 quests thing where you fight against power what try to take control over royal family and that way to make Gwen too burn everyone.

Spike · Jan 04, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Well GW's 2nd bday would be the end of april/start of may. So while I belive there will be a chapter 4 I don't see it comeing out march the 1st as stated by the play.com website. I somehow don't think they will miss doing something for GW's 2nd bday be it chapter 4 or a sorrows furnace type update for Nightfall I guess. But i'm sure they will DO someting

Grannysaff · Jan 04, 2007, 03:00 PM // 15:00

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Originally Posted by wetsparks

It seems Play is needing some money so they put out a pre-order and a "release" date hoping to get some quick cash and no return to you for your trouble.

Play.com do not charge your card until dispatch, and they never have. They are therefore not making any quick cash. They are simply making preparations early for sales. They did this with Factions too if I recall correctly.

floppinghog · Jan 04, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44

i heard that Anet will begin banning players who spread false/baseless rumors about their company's agenda....

but you didn't hear it from me...

Loviatar · Jan 04, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by Omega X

Then ALEX and GAILE must be crosswired. Because she said that the DEV TEAM was debating about pushing back the release a couple of months. She said that at the beginning of December last I recall. That was around the same time she was talking about the December 20th update.

Call it what you want, but search for it yourself before badmouthing.

then you obviously have an official GW site announcement link to show us.

please provide it rather than saying try to find it.

in the mean time a repeat of ALEX WEEKES is needed

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I know it's incredibly boring, but I can only repeat what Gaile has said when asked about rumours in the past:

Until we confirm something, don't set your heart on it being true. If it's a rumour, chances are it's going to be wrong. That's the way these things go, a lot of the time. Someone will talk about something they'd *like* to have, and overtime as more people talk about it it gets twisted into "I heard they are going to do this..."
__________________
Alex 'GhostRaptor' Weekes
Guild Wars Community Relations
NCsoft Europe

Durge Ironbreak · Jan 04, 2007, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Regardless of whether the release date on play is right or wrong there's nothing wrong with them allowing people to pre-order Chapter 4 now.

No this is not some blatant attempt by play to get more money or rip people off as a couple of people have posted. For one thing play don't take any cash from your bank until they have actually mailed you the product so they wont take any money from you until Chapter 4 is actually released.

Additionally play don't rip people off either. My past order list on my play account has over 300 Games, CD's and DVD's listed and only once in the years that I have ordered from play did they mess up an order which they promptly sorted out without any hassle what-so-ever.

The release date is more than likely based upon Anet's 6 monthly Chapter release schedule and even if the release date is not what they have up on the site as of this moment they will still honor any pre-orders they get for the product.

I for one have no problems pre-ordering this from play regardless of whether or not the release date is official.

Gaile Gray · Jan 04, 2007, 09:05 PM // 21:05

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Originally Posted by Omega X

Then ALEX and GAILE must be crosswired. Because she said that the DEV TEAM was debating about pushing back the release a couple of months. She said that at the beginning of December last I recall. That was around the same time she was talking about the December 20th update. Call it what you want, but search for it yourself before badmouthing.

Sorry, but no, I have never said that we were pushing back release. I have never spoken about release dates at all, not in any sense. In short, yes, there will be a Campaign 4. However, we have not commented upon the title, contents, theme, storyline, region, professions, enemies, or release date. In truth, no details have not been released about Campaign 4 other than the fact there will be a Campaign 4. Sp please, in the interests of keeping everyone properly informed and to quell needless rumours, do not misquote me and do not attribute to me something that I have not said--not in forums, not in person, not in the game.

Thanks.

Tide to Go · Jan 04, 2007, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Gaile if you come back to this........u said you are giving out stuff about guild wars 4 this month-feb.......now can we know where the information will be posted??? even though this isent the subject, thought i'd have a chance since you posted something,(and yes you did say it on your wintersday gaile gray)thanks.

o and omega x......shame on you(j/k)

False Truth · Jan 04, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Sorry, but no, I have never said that we were pushing back release. I have never spoken about release dates at all, not in any sense. In short, yes, there will be a Campaign 4. However, we have not commented upon the title, contents, theme, storyline, region, professions, enemies, or release date. In truth, no details have not been released about Campaign 4 other than the fact there will be a Campaign 4. Sp please, in the interests of keeping everyone properly informed and to quell needless rumours, do not misquote me and do not attribute to me something that I have not said--not in forums, not in person, not in the game.

Thanks.

I don't know why but people have the tendency to take everything you say(whether related to guild wars or not) to a definite fact, even if it isn't a fact in the first place. I'm glad you've cleared this up for people.

BladeDVD · Jan 04, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by holy matremonie

we have a TV show in Belgium that covers everthing from the latest games to retro. 1.5 months ago they had an interview with the NCsoft representative for the Benelux about the NF part of GW. When they asked him about a possible part 4, he clearly stated that the new part wouldnt be available before AUGUST 2007, but they would be adding new content for the earlier parts of the game.

Is it this show: http://media.gamevillage.nl/video/06..._nightfall.wmv

It was posted in this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10083395

If that's it, it's been categorically denied by Gaile: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10083640

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Hey, guys,

I don't know who that gentleman is, but he doesn't work for ArenaNet, and I don't think he works for NCsoft in any capacity, either. Which begs the question of why he's being interviewed about our game.

The only information we have at present about Campaign 4 is that there will be a Campaign 4. That's it, honestly!

We have not announced any of the following:

Release date
Location, Setting, Style, Culture, Theme
Number of characters
Title
Cost
Prerelease Plans
Event Plans
Etc.

In truth, we have not set a release date -- not even internally! So once again, I've no idea where all that "information" came from and I don't believe that it is accurate. (With no disrespect intended to whomever that mysterious interviewee is.

)

Also, found this regarding the March 1, 2007 date: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10088955
Copy/Paste from thread link:
No. Just... no.

You remember the drill: If you don't hear it from us, it's not official. That's not only not official, it's patently untrue. I can tell you with 100% confidence: Campaign 4 will not be out on March 1, 2007.

bsoltan · Jan 04, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by Firebaall

Looks like a money grab.

pre pre order

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Originally Posted by Omega X

Yep, a money grab. GW Chapter 4 was pushed back to August from April I believe.

It isn't even a "money grab", as Play.com don't take any payment until the item is dispatched. It is a simple pre-order, probably to judge the popularity so they can get the required stock when the time comes. Therefore not disappointing fans when it comes to the actual release day.

TheUndertaker · Jan 04, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

In truth, no details have not been released about Campaign 4 other than the fact there will be a Campaign 4.

No details have not been released?? Does that mean some details have been released?!? J/k of course.

Maybe none of the rumors will turn out to be true but isn't this fun?

Bhaaltazar · Jan 04, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

I dont see any reason of making a new chapter when there r so many things that could be improved in P, F and NF. I say let em first fix and upgrade existing chapters and not release some half made chapters just just to make few extra bucks.
I still say that quality should come first before the money and quantity.

And even if they make next chapter i dont see myself playing the next chapter who will be stale old campains with nothing new to show ( maybe few make up improvements ). I d rather see em making payable upgrades for existing chapters ( something like in SF style.. there are wast areas of old maps still unused or without any real purposes or maybe implementing existing game play ).

mega_jamie · Jan 04, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by Cygnus_Zero

With this game, when rumors spread that wildly, they almost always are true.

You can stop standing infront of the dwarf now, its not true.

Gaile has said no info can be given on C4 yet, so that means nobody knows, perhpas people are taking this vow of silence as a prelude o a push back, but nobody can say for certain, they are just rumours.

Ontopic to OP: Play.com always retail SE at 17.99, dig around for all the UK.PREORDER FACTIONS/NF threads and see,

Omega X · Jan 05, 2007, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by Bhaaltazar

I dont see any reason of making a new chapter when there r so many things that could be improved in P, F and NF. I say let em first fix and upgrade existing chapters and not release some half made chapters just just to make few extra bucks.
I still say that quality should come first before the money and quantity.

That has been suggested countless times, but I doubt they ever will until Guild Wars is distilled across many chapters.

Ulivious The Reaper · Jan 05, 2007, 03:30 AM // 03:30

i find the release date odd..

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Originally Posted by Play.com

availability: Due for release on 01/03/2007

Rok · Jan 05, 2007, 04:15 AM // 04:15

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Originally Posted by Omega X

That has been suggested countless times, but I doubt they ever will until Guild Wars is distilled across many chapters.

Pwnd by GG herself and you come back to post more crap. Do you even play anymore or just come to foul up the forums?

Anet will do as they please. If you don't like it .... well, you should know by now since you've hear it over and over everyday.

This thread should of been closed after Gaile's reply.

Bhaaltazar · Jan 05, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52

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Originally Posted by Rok

Pwnd by GG herself and you come back to post more crap. Do you even play anymore or just come to foul up the forums?

Anet will do as they please. If you don't like it .... well, you should know by now since you've hear it over and over everyday.

This thread should of been closed after Gaile's reply.

Do you even play anymore or just come to foul up the forums?

People come to forums to express their thoughts and not just nod and be quiet. If u have problem with that dont come and post here., dont even try to read it than... Discussion is something where two or more sides discuss about one topic. If they would agree on everything than there would be no debate.

And if game will change the way u wont like it I am 100% sure u will the first to come here and complain. So leave ppl to say what they have in mind even if u dont agree with em ok? You will be happier person.